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GamblersHand
656 posts
Jun 23, 2017
10:41 PM
Progressions in minor keys (this is in Am) are not forgiving for harmonica beginners. You want to hit the notes purely and most part-chords are out of tune

Try a G harp on this progression, but try to avoid 3 draw. Notes from 4 blow up to 7 blow on this harp should work, and no bends required
Komuso
698 posts
Jun 24, 2017
3:47 AM
You can also use a natural minor harp. Sometimes they suit the tune better than playing the "traditional" minor positions on diatonic harps.

Lee Oskar Natural Minor Harps

The Harmonic Minor is excellent for something more exotic sounding.
Lee Oskar Harmonic Minor Harps

Suzuki Manji Natural Minor are also nice but are tuned to a Japanese scale, which I don't mind but others might.
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KingoBad
1701 posts
Jun 26, 2017
6:22 AM
Very ambitious to be busking so early. Nothing ventured, nothing gained I guess...

Perhaps a little bit of time with a teacher, or YouTube vids on the basics of music structure.

There is nothing you can really do by Sunday to change it up much. You just need time and practice...

You need to listen to your recording again with fresh ears and give yourself an honest opinion.

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Danny

Last Edited by KingoBad on Jun 26, 2017 6:25 AM
hvyj
3351 posts
Jun 26, 2017
3:38 PM
Well, you are playing out of key and your bends appear to be random since they have no relationship to the music being played.

You can actually get away with playing like that if you are playing major key I - IV - V blues in second position. But the guitar player is playing in a minor key. Playing minor is more challenging even for an expierenced player.

My suggestion is to practice scales and try to learn which scale to use for which style of music,

In the meantime, here are some crude rules of thumb for playing in a minor key: If you are playing minor, don't play any chords and don't bend randomly. Do this: use 5th position avoid draw 5 and draw 9 and don't bend anything except draw 3 and don't bend that more than a whole step. If you do that it will be difficult to hit s really bad note.
hvyj
3352 posts
Jun 26, 2017
5:16 PM
To play C minor in 5th position you would use an Ab harp.
Tuckster
1599 posts
Jun 27, 2017
7:03 AM
Don't get discouraged from all this valuable constructive criticism.Nothing speeds up your learning like playing with another musician.This doesn't happen overnight-it's a marathon not a sprint.It's important to listen to yourself with a critical ear but don't beat yourself up about it.
My 2 cents to your disappeared recording is: back off on your breathe force. You're playing too hard.
ejakon
12 posts
Jun 27, 2017
7:41 AM
Oh sorry il reput it back on here, i tried deleting the thread since i thought i got more than enough feedback to improve on myself but im new to fourms so it just ended up deleting my messages haha

https://soundcloud.com/e-j-delos-santos/jam-2-1
hvyj
3354 posts
Jun 27, 2017
9:23 AM
Yes, playing with other musicians is the best catalyst for learning to play, so long as you also spend some time practicing technique and fundamentals, like scales. Play whatever with whoever. Just jump in, sink or swim, but then work on whatever you need to improve on so you will, hopefully, play better the next time.

Btw, someone said the tune you were trying to play was in A minor. You said the guitar player told you it was in C. The key of C is the relative major to A minor which means the C major scale and the A natural minor scale have EXACTLY THE SAME NOTES. but each scale just starts on a different note.

To play A minor in fifth position you would use an F harp.

If a MINOR key is called you should ordinarily use third, fourth or fifth position instead of second position.

Don't let anyone tell you that these positions are more difficult or more advanced than first or second position. They are not. In fact, for some material they are much EASIER. There is no reason not to start using all of these positions from the beginning. You just need to learn the breath patterns for the pertinent scales. Take a look at my User Profile page for some tabbed out pentatonic scales in different positions.

Playing in different positions is just playing the same harmonica in different keys which is something musicians who play other instruments do all the time as a matter of routine.

Keep playing with other people. It's a great way to learn and improve! And it's fun.

Last Edited by hvyj on Jun 27, 2017 9:29 AM


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