John M G
136 posts
May 21, 2017
6:31 PM
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My back is giving me continuing problems and I am trying to lighten my equipment. Reluctantly, I've sold my Princeton 65 Reverb reissue.
I've decided to go with a Quilter Pro Block 200 which at just 4 lbs seems ideal, plus the amount of head room it gives seems to be another bonus.
The next question is what to do about a speaker cabinet and what speaker or speakers to go for. This is something I have no idea at about and would appreciate some shared wisdom if you can help please. The max rated output of the Quilter is 200 watts so I was going to look for 200 watt speakers, then again the output power is selectable so is this another area to dial in rather than go for the maximum output?
I bought a couple of Fender Frontman 65R amps that I am using in the interim. The idea was to sacrifice and gut the amp and turn them into just a speaker cabinet.
I removed the amplifier section but even so what was left was still reasonably heavy.
The speakers are 12" and I'm thinking that maybe the only answer is neodymium magnet speakers but these all seem to be for bass applications.
The next question is how about 10" neodymium types.
Is this all too much of a compromise?
Any suggestions appreciated.
Cheers John
Last Edited by John M G on May 21, 2017 6:35 PM
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wheel
546 posts
May 24, 2017
2:18 AM
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With my Quilter 101 mini head I use Eminence Lil buddy or Jensen p10r. I love them both.
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Tblues1
88 posts
May 24, 2017
5:57 AM
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Jensen Tornado Jet 10 and 12 are guitar speakers, rated I think at 100 watts.
They sound ok.
Not necessarily a bad idea to use a Bass speaker, do a little research to make sure that's what you want.
That's a lot of power you will have there, if you use the max setting.
Quilter uses some neodymium Bass speakers in their amps in the "HD" versions. You can read the product descriptions for info.
Eminence Big Ben is a 15 inch, rated at 225 watts, but it has a 56oz. magnet so it's a bit heavy.
Tone Tubby Superman Bass is a neodymium 15 inch Bass speaker that works well, but expensive and currently out of stock.
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shakeylee
645 posts
May 28, 2017
7:46 PM
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I would think a microblock into a solid pine 1x12 ,at 33/45 watts would be super light and plenty loud .
I don't think I have ever needed 200 watts,except for PA systems ,ever.
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Last Edited by shakeylee on May 28, 2017 7:47 PM
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John M G
137 posts
May 29, 2017
12:15 AM
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To late shakeylee!
I went for a 300 mile round trip last night to pick up a pair of Celestion NTR08-2009D speakers. Rang the Australian agent for the Quilter amps this afternoon and placed the order for the Pro block 200
I think my current mantra that "I ain't gonna die wondering" has been fulfilled. All I have to do now is build a closed back cabinet for them and wait for the Pro Block to arrive.
Here's the specs on the speakers.
NTR08-2009D specs
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shakeylee
646 posts
May 29, 2017
4:23 PM
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Well,I think you will love it!
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John M G
366 posts
Jun 09, 2020
6:00 AM
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I'm back in a dark place!
I came across this post because I'm looking for 10" speakers again and just did a search on the forum and here I am again.
As you can see my original post was 3 years ago!
I finally built the 2x8 cab for those NTR08-2009D's. Solid pine, hand cut dovetail joints, stained blue and fender style grill cloth. It looked, still looks great.
I finished it just a week ago.
Maybe 2 years ago I bought a Matrix VB-800 hybrid amp that uses a couple of 12AX7's and speced at 420 watts at 4 ohms and 300 watts at 8 ohms.
I took it to practice last week and after just 2 hours at very low volume, I was using it for vocals, the amp went high voltage DC and burnt out the two Celestion speakers. The amp has to go back to the UK, the speakers are toast, no re cone kits available and to have them re coned using non original parts is going to cost the best part of $450!
I am in deep deep pain!
That's the best part of a grand down the toilet!
Ouch!
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dougharps
2129 posts
Jun 09, 2020
7:02 AM
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I gave up on larger, heavier amps due to back pain.
I still like the Lil Buddy and pre-pandemic used one with an EHX 44 Magnum. I have used this combination with a 58 for vocals and harp when the PA died. You would need to set the Quilter to lower power, but I have filled medium venues with harp over loud bands with this "sit-in" rig. For a bigger venue or outdoors you might need sound reinforcement through the PA. I really like the Lil Buddy for harp. It is a lightweight carry in, sounds good and is not very expensive.
Edit: I have also used a Bad Monkey pedal turned OFF to split my mic signal to an amp and the PA when I wanted FOH sound to set levels while I am using the amp on stage as mainly a monitor.
Finally, Joyo American Sound can sound great through the PA.
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Last Edited by dougharps on Jun 09, 2020 7:08 AM
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Harpaholic
963 posts
Jun 09, 2020
7:51 AM
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Last Edited by Harpaholic on Jun 09, 2020 3:51 PM
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9000
274 posts
Jun 09, 2020
9:33 PM
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Quite a few harp players have started using the Quilter Micropro with 8 inch pro audio [think PA] speaker. All the power/volume you'll probably ever need indoors or out. Matches up well with most popular harp mics and really nice on board reverb. 19 pounds.
All the best on your journey,
Jay
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