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Thievin' Heathen
855 posts
Oct 22, 2016
9:32 AM
Goldbrick
1663 posts
Oct 22, 2016
10:18 AM


I would rather hear acoustic these days - dont need Mick

Awesome Martin 00-21 Keef is playing

Last Edited by Goldbrick on Oct 22, 2016 10:28 AM
RyanMortos
1583 posts
Oct 22, 2016
12:12 PM
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schaef
59 posts
Oct 22, 2016
12:16 PM
If this was just audio, and you didn't know it was the rolling stones would you be so impressed?
Gnarly
1961 posts
Oct 22, 2016
1:18 PM
I didn't mind this--not familiar with the original.
Mick is so skinny!
Hope they had fun, and hope you can keep from being offended.
Bet I am pissing somebody off right now . . .
Gnarly
1962 posts
Oct 22, 2016
1:19 PM
Oh, it's Walter . . .
Listening to the original, much better, I like Walter.
But still--
Don't be upset, they don't mean any harm.
slaphappy
236 posts
Oct 22, 2016
2:27 PM
not offended but I've heard much better versions of Just Your Fool down at the local BBQ joint. That Stones version dragged and the harp does make me cringe a little.. Still it's cool they are playing Little Walter tunes, I got no problem with it even if it sucks hah.

Just shows how much harder it is to play the blues right than people think, you gotta be dye'd in the wool to a large degree IMO.

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Last Edited by slaphappy on Oct 22, 2016 2:30 PM
indigo
280 posts
Oct 22, 2016
3:48 PM
Best thing is Keefs new dental work..take a hit record to pay for that.)
Frank101
189 posts
Oct 22, 2016
4:16 PM
They started out as a blues band - lots of Muddy & Wolf material, homages like 2120 South Michigan - so this is certainly not a new departure or anything like that.

I do like that earlier stuff of theirs much better than these examples, but whatever.

Will this record help make blues music more popular among Today's Young People? Hmmm .... anybody know what the Stones' demographic is these days?

Last Edited by Frank101 on Oct 22, 2016 4:16 PM
Gnarly
1965 posts
Oct 22, 2016
5:53 PM
Well, it got me to check out the original, so I would say it's working!
Greg Heumann
3286 posts
Oct 23, 2016
9:27 AM
Look on the bright side.

1) This will cause a resurgence of interest in the blues.

2) This will cause a resurgence of interest in the harmonica.

3) This will make most of us look really good as harp players.
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Little roger
161 posts
Oct 23, 2016
9:59 AM
Ouch!!
1847
3765 posts
Oct 23, 2016
11:02 AM
i like what he did on the 5 chord, not perfect, but he went for it.

how hard would it be to ask the engineer to loop the 12 bar section and put it on cd.
then mick could tool around london in his VW bus, and really work out all the finer details.

he is pretty close to being a very decent harp player, just a little bit of an effort on his part.
and he could do this song justice.
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Goldbrick
1664 posts
Oct 23, 2016
12:36 PM
what is amazing , is after 50 years of playing and access to the best instruction Mick is still not any better than Brian was in 1965

Guess he is trying to keep it " real"
nacoran
9267 posts
Oct 23, 2016
12:48 PM
Greg, that was some wonderful snark. It put a smile on my face. :)

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mlefree
781 posts
Oct 23, 2016
3:21 PM
Just as a counterpoint to Greg's jab, this might make young folks and/or newbies think, "Whaaa? This is the blues? No thanks..."

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Last Edited by mlefree on Oct 23, 2016 3:22 PM
Harp2swing
244 posts
Oct 23, 2016
4:11 PM
Gotta agree with Goldbrick, Brian had it down back then. Just have a listen to those two instrumentals "Now I've got a witness" and 2120 South Michigan Ave"
He had the harp under control...(apologies if this is this a thread hijack).
Here's Brian on harp on 2120...


And this is Mick on this live BBC take...

Last Edited by Harp2swing on Oct 23, 2016 11:47 PM
Thievin' Heathen
857 posts
Oct 23, 2016
8:11 PM
I have always liked the harp work on Midnight Rambler. I just think Mick Jagger reduced an iconic harp song to the old in-out, in-out on this one. And it did not start off very well..., "somebody bring me a harmonica, I'm gonna play some Little Walter. Nuthin to it". Really?
Sundancer
44 posts
Oct 24, 2016
12:28 AM
Ironic that no one has mentioned how slight the odds would be of this site even existing in the 2010s had these skinny Limeys not rescued the delta blues from oblivion back in the late 60s. America was indifferent, at best, to the art form. Luckily Mick & Keef weren't.
WinslowYerxa
1230 posts
Oct 24, 2016
12:48 AM
The original Just Your Fool is by Buddy Johnson, not Little Walter. Buddy Johnson and Ella Johnson recorded it in 1953, with songwriting credit to Buddy Johnson.

Little Water didn't record the song until December of 1960.

it even has its own Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Your_Fool
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Oct 24, 2016 8:45 AM
Thievin' Heathen
859 posts
Oct 24, 2016
5:15 AM
Wow. This really makes The Stones version sound garage band.


But it frees them from the single comparison.
tmf714
2913 posts
Oct 24, 2016
8:08 AM
"Although he used lyrics and an eight-bar blues arrangement similar to Buddy Johnson,[5] the song is credited to Little Walter, also known as Walter Jacobs."

So Walter still gets the credits for his version titled "Just Your Fool".
WinslowYerxa
1231 posts
Oct 24, 2016
8:47 AM
Who are you quoting? It's clearly the same song, with mostly the same lyrics. It's far from the first time a blues artist took writing credit for covering an earlier song. Muddy did it with Mojo, Rice Miller did it with Fattening Frogs for Snakes, etc., etc.
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tmf714
2914 posts
Oct 24, 2016
9:15 AM
Lol the wiki link you provided
WinslowYerxa
1232 posts
Oct 24, 2016
9:16 AM
Which also leads with: "Little Walter recorded a Chicago blues adaptation of the song." Thanks for giving your source.
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The Iceman
2959 posts
Oct 24, 2016
10:08 AM
always enjoyed this contemporary version...


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kham
77 posts
Oct 24, 2016
7:43 PM
In regards to the OP.
Brutal. Absolutely brutal...
I am offended. Not totally. But offended none the less.
He could have taken a little effort and learned at minimum 2 cools licks with his available resources or at least invite a seasoned harp player take a solo.
Thievin' Heathen
860 posts
Oct 25, 2016
4:54 AM
Or pulled a pretty girl out of the audience.
Wait.., was that sexist?
Honkin On Bobo
1389 posts
Oct 25, 2016
7:09 AM
I am most definitely not offended. I am however, highly entertained by the offense taken by others.
The Iceman
2964 posts
Oct 25, 2016
8:15 AM
Frequently, "Citizens" don't know quality from crap, musically speaking, but they do respond to whatever the superstars produce, whether good or bad (from our perspective).
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Honkin On Bobo
1390 posts
Oct 25, 2016
10:17 AM
Yes, the unwashed masses. Those sons o bitches. How dare they.
Goldbrick
1666 posts
Oct 25, 2016
10:29 AM
Sad to say- but better to burn out than to rust

However rusty burnouts are not much fun to watch

And to clarify-The Stones were a huge influence on me growing up I still listen to and play their music almost every day. Just sometimes you gotta give it a rest when its no longer vital

Like Peyton manning it might just be time to walk away or do their side projects

Last Edited by Goldbrick on Oct 25, 2016 10:34 AM
Goldbrick
1667 posts
Oct 25, 2016
10:31 AM
ooh-ooh Pleased to meet you previous post was 1 666


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