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John M G
64 posts
Sep 01, 2016
5:14 AM
I'm looking to find some Youtube examples of songs in other positions other than first, second or third.
Say 4th and 5th positions and other blues suitable positions.
I'd like to listen to some standards, if there are any, that have been done in these less better known or less often used positions.
Cheers JG
1847
3646 posts
Sep 01, 2016
7:56 AM
i posted a clip in 5 th i thought was excellent... even though it did not generate any responses. perhaps it was not as good as i thought lol.

i'll see if i can re-do it and post on youtube when i get a chance.
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timeistight
2039 posts
Sep 01, 2016
9:40 AM
Fourth position:

timeistight
2040 posts
Sep 01, 2016
9:43 AM
Fifth position:

Tuckster
1529 posts
Sep 01, 2016
3:14 PM
Tuckster
1530 posts
Sep 01, 2016
3:32 PM
1847
3648 posts
Sep 01, 2016
7:46 PM
if i am not mistaken i started in 5 th position here
i kind of screwed it up a bit... i hate when that happens... lol

ridge
680 posts
Sep 02, 2016
5:43 AM
Pretty sure this is in 4th

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Last Edited by ridge on Sep 02, 2016 5:46 AM
John M G
65 posts
Sep 03, 2016
1:45 AM
Timesight, thanks for your examples.
I have "Breathatakin blues" in the key of G and being played on a Bb harp so definitely in 4th
"Central Tracks Blues" in Db being played on an A harp so in 5th and not a real fluid position but some interesting tongue blocks from around the 2.00 time line.
I'm not so sure that 1847's and Ridge's are 5th and 4th respectively.
I have 1847's "Asked My Baby For A Nickel" in the key of B and being played in 3rd on an A harp ? Really like the piece though.
I have Ridge's "The Sinister Mister" in the key of D played on a C harp again in 3rd.

Tuckster, thanks for the links to Chris Michalek, I wasn't around here when he was posting. Clearly a great loss.
That bit he did on 11th position was great.

I'd really appreciate any links to other pieces in the more obscure positions/modes!?
Cheers JG
1847
3663 posts
Sep 03, 2016
6:07 AM
the song is in B.... i used a G harp at the beginning, then i switched to a
leaky airy E harp, then towards the end i switched again to an A harp.
John M G
66 posts
Sep 03, 2016
5:36 PM
1847, I got it now, thought the volume on the bit you did on the G harp wasn't that loud or distinct and was only for a few bars at the beginning. I'd picked the bit in E but like I say missed that small bit in 5th.
I really liked the piece. Nice.
SuperBee
4084 posts
Sep 03, 2016
6:55 PM
Yeah hey John, not that it's a strength of mine, or that I have a strength anyway, but 5th is pretty similiar to 2nd I believe. In that pentatonic major in second is all the same moves as pentatonic minor in 5th, so as far as fluidity is concerned I think there is s lot of potential there.
It's been a few years since I was learning and I didn't go on with it but Jimi Lee spent some time with me showing what can be done in 5th position and I was convinced.
WinslowYerxa
1215 posts
Sep 03, 2016
7:01 PM
Here's fifth position on "I am a Poor Wayfaring Stranger," from Chapter 14 of Harmonica For Dummies, Second Edition

Poor Wayfaring Stranger
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Sep 03, 2016 7:20 PM
SuperBee
4085 posts
Sep 04, 2016
5:28 AM
This one is 12th, G on a D harp:



https://youtu.be/L1UyPh3Z3LI

Last Edited by SuperBee on Sep 04, 2016 5:33 AM
jim
1507 posts
Sep 04, 2016
9:50 AM
tuning, tunings, goddamnit, not positions!
You need to try better tunings and adapt the instrument to the task, not yourself to the instrument.

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WinslowYerxa
1217 posts
Sep 04, 2016
11:09 AM
Here's fifth position again, this time using a Steve Baker Special (SBS harp) to extend the lower part of the range (how's that for splitting the difference, jim?)

The tune, Spanish Changes, is a 12-bar blues in E where all the chords except the I chord have been replaced with other chords. Most significantly, the A chord (the IV chord) has been replaced with an F chord, one semitone above the I chord (E), hence the stereotypical "Spanish" sound, which is also what makes fifth position well suited to this tune.


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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Sep 05, 2016 10:02 AM
JInx
1221 posts
Sep 04, 2016
11:38 AM
See if you can identify the position inferred by this transcript

[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/25u4bj5.jpg[/IMG]

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Last Edited by JInx on Sep 04, 2016 11:44 AM
GamblersHand
619 posts
Sep 04, 2016
2:17 PM
That looks like 6th...?
John M G
67 posts
Sep 05, 2016
5:28 AM
Jim, I'm sorry, I don't understand the point you are trying to make?
Are you suggesting to use a differently tuned harmonica rather than using different one of the 12 different positions on diatonic harmonica?
JInx
1222 posts
Sep 05, 2016
8:06 PM
Yup 6th
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timeistight
2041 posts
Sep 08, 2016
8:05 AM
@Jinx: What book is that from?
timeistight
2042 posts
Sep 08, 2016
8:38 AM
Bloody hell! What was it this time? The "at" sign?


Hey Jinx! What book is your example from.

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1847
3674 posts
Sep 08, 2016
9:07 AM
timeistight......
don't tell let me guess, you logged in as required.
you entered the correct spam prevention code.
your post was marked as spam anyway, and now your post has disappeared?
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timeistight
2043 posts
Sep 08, 2016
9:25 AM
Well, yeah.

But entering the code has nothing to do with the spam filter. Two completely separate systems.

Both annoying and ineffective, true, but otherwise unconnected.
1847
3675 posts
Sep 08, 2016
9:52 AM
it is a spam prevention code, it is supposed to identify that fact that you are not a spammer.
but it marked your post as indeed spam.
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timeistight
2044 posts
Sep 08, 2016
10:22 AM
No, entering the CAPTCHA code is to determine that you aren't a robot before it lets you post. Then, after your post has been entered and appears in the thread, an entirely different system tries to guess whether the post is spam (mostly, it seems, by checking the length and the presence of code).

This post may get deleted because of the HTML marking the word "robot".

Last Edited by timeistight on Sep 08, 2016 10:23 AM
1847
3677 posts
Sep 08, 2016
10:37 AM
perhaps we can market this system to places like target and wendys, they would never have credit card info hacked ever again. we could all feel much more secure
JInx
1225 posts
Sep 08, 2016
11:47 AM
It's called Creative Blues Harp with arrangements by the great Clarence Sterling. He has some great stuff in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even yes, 6th!
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Last Edited by JInx on Sep 08, 2016 11:49 AM
timeistight
2045 posts
Sep 08, 2016
1:18 PM
Thanks, Jinx.
John M G
71 posts
Sep 23, 2016
9:32 PM
I just saw Moon Cat's latest tutorial on playing in 12th and now finally get it!


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