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Goldbrick
1572 posts
Aug 14, 2016
6:15 PM
Your 3 biggest Blues influences

For me

T Bone Walker
Muddy Waters band with Litle Walter
Elmore James

Honorable mention to John Lee Hooker
5smokey
1 post
Aug 14, 2016
6:57 PM
Junior Wells
Howlin Wolf
Sonny Boy 2

Honorable mention: Jimmy Reed
Rgsccr
444 posts
Aug 14, 2016
8:35 PM
Robert Johnson
Little Walter
Sonny Boy 2

Honorable Mention - Paul deLay, James Cotton, Alan Wilson, Butterfield
2plankr
83 posts
Aug 14, 2016
9:16 PM
George Harmonica Smith
Big Walter Horton
Kim Wilson

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Bass410man
93 posts
Aug 14, 2016
9:34 PM
Big Walter, William Clarke, Charlie McCoy.

Edit: Just noticed " blues" influence. So Little Walter, with honourable mention to Charlie McCoy for being a huge influence for harmonica in general.

Last Edited by Bass410man on Aug 14, 2016 9:42 PM
indigo
269 posts
Aug 14, 2016
9:54 PM
in order of how they happened:
Sonny Terry
Charlie Musselwhite
Paul butterfield

The 'Beano' album by John mayall with Eric Clapton.
Since then near anybody who could lay down a good twelve bar.
jason campbell
89 posts
Aug 15, 2016
3:20 AM
Sonny Terry
Son House
Annie Raines
6SN7
658 posts
Aug 15, 2016
5:02 AM
buddy guy
john mayall
big walter horton
Killa_Hertz
1695 posts
Aug 15, 2016
5:35 AM
Captcha Got My first one.

Well I would Say:

Before I Played Harp:

Rice Miller

The Wolf

Muddy ( w/ Portnoy, Jacobs, Horton, Cotton, Smith, Butterfield, Etc.) Ofcourse I didnt Know who half of them were at the time.

And Junior Wells ( I know thats 4, but i couldnt leave him out)


Now I would Say:

Rice Miller ( I dont think this one needs explanation)

Ronnie Shellist

Both from Ronnies Albums and His harmonica123 lessons. I dig Ronnies take on everything he does. His playing style, his note choices, etc. He's a great player with his own Fresh recognizable style that's not overly flashy, which to me sets him apart from other players.

Walter Horton ( Again, No explanation Needed.)

And Adam Gussow.

I couldnt leave Adam out. ALOT of what I play is straight from him. Modified, twisted around and tweaked a bit, or sometimes not at all. Most of the stuff at the Core of my playing is from Adam. All his youtube lessons and most importantly his Tradebit Lessons make up the foundation of a majority of what I play.


Honorable Mention To: James Cotton, Rod Piazza and George Smith, Little Sonny, Steve Guyger, Paul Oscher, Jason Ricci ( If you count him as Blues), William Clarke, and Ofcourse Still Everything Put Out By Muddy and the Gang. The list could go on and on, But these are the Big Ones
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Rontana
343 posts
Aug 15, 2016
5:41 AM
Mississippi John Hurt (My #1 for sure)
Elmore James
Robert Johnson
harpwrench
1097 posts
Aug 15, 2016
6:01 AM
LW, BW, Primich
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Glass Harp Full
143 posts
Aug 15, 2016
6:19 AM
John Lee Hooker
Muddy Waters
Howlin' Wolf

Honourable mentions: Sonny Terry, Junior Wells
LittleBubba
334 posts
Aug 15, 2016
7:51 AM
Rev. Gary Davis, Tony (Little Son) Glover, Sonny Terry.
Moon Cat
577 posts
Aug 15, 2016
10:05 AM
I can't just do three cuz they change sorry here's the best I can do (harp only)!

1987-1995
Little Walter
Paul Butterfield
Alan Wilson

1995-present
Adama Gussow
Pat Ramsey
Howard Levy
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harpdude61
2329 posts
Aug 15, 2016
10:11 AM
Jason Ricci
Jerry "Boogie" McCain
Little Walter
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harmonicanick
2512 posts
Aug 15, 2016
10:26 AM
and a uk perspective

John Mayall
Paul Lamb
JJ Milteau
ValleyDuke
82 posts
Aug 15, 2016
10:26 AM
Willie Dixon - because of the songs he wrote
Buddy Guy - most expressive bluesman ever
Junior Wells - frontman style and staccato harp

Now, I can get a band like this? Willie on bass, Buddy on gtr, Jr. vocals and harp
ME.HarpDoc
178 posts
Aug 15, 2016
10:59 AM
Like Killa, I had pre-harp influences and post-harp influences. I really didn't get into the blues deeply until I took up harp a couple years ago.

Early influences (I just liked their sound):
John Mayall
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Eric Clapton

I was most influenced to take up blues harp, and thus spurned my passion for blues, by a harp player named Lauren Williams from Maine (let me know if you recognize her).

So blues harp players are:
Lauren Williams
Dennis Gruenling
Paul Butterfield

Those who keep me inspired on my own journey include Ronnie Shellist and Adam Gussow
Sundancer
16 posts
Aug 15, 2016
3:53 PM
It'd sure be hard to argue any of the choices in these posts, but I'm curious - did y'all start straight away with these blues greats, or were you like me and got brought to the blues by the skinny white boys who were resurrecting it back the late 60s & early 70s? The guys who hipped me to the blues are:
- the first 2 J. Geils Band records were probably the first great harp I ever heard. BTW - my wife & I saw Peter Wolf play in a SoCal club on Fiday. Magnificent showman!
- How many of y'all heard your first Sonny Boy when the NY Dolls played Don't Start Me Talkin on their first album? Johansen is the real deal.
- and Mick & Keith, of course. Those English boys may play the blues real bad, but look what they covered. Love In Vain, Shake your hips, stop breaking down, prodigal son, King bee, little red rooster. Wow.
Fil
175 posts
Aug 15, 2016
4:13 PM
Well, Jon Gindick got me started and put harping in the realm of possibility for me. That's a pretty strong influence. After that, hard to say. I listen to so much blues. Kim Wilson, Paul Lamb, Walter Horton? But then Sonny Terry, Phil Wiggins, Corey Bell? Keeping it to three is a challenge. Good question, Goldbrick. And Sundancer, I think I'm like you.
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Sundancer
17 posts
Aug 15, 2016
4:51 PM
Gindick got me started as well. But the reason I wanted to is because I saw Charlie Musselwhite play at the 100 Club in London in 2008.
http://www.whiskyfun.com/Gigs/Charlie-Musselwhite-100-Cl.html
I decided 2 things that night:
1. Absolutely had to figure out how to play the harmonica someday
2. THATS what I want to look like when I'm 70! Charlie is the coolest looking 70 year old white cat ever.
Steve Harvell
206 posts
Aug 15, 2016
5:33 PM
Sonny Boy Williamson 2

Little Walter

Muddy Waters
Rhartt1234
213 posts
Aug 15, 2016
5:57 PM
Muddy Waters
Little Walter
George "Harmonica" Smith

By his own influence on Rod Piazza, William Clarke and Mark Hummel George Smith really covers a lot of ground in my world.
jpmcbride
120 posts
Aug 15, 2016
6:53 PM
I think I have to separate mine into two kinds of influences.

Blues masters that I listened to and tried to copy, and learn from.

(1) Sonny Boy 2 - When first starting out I got a SB2 CD and really got into it. At that point I wasn't ready for Little Walter. I loved what I heard from LW but it was completely foreign to me. I couldn't make any of the sounds he made and had no idea what he was doing. SB2 was simple and I could "hear" what he was doing. Of course the more I learned, the more I saw how hard it really was to play the SB stuff! Simple on the surface but hard underneath.


(2) Junior Wells - I love the way he leaves space in his playing and often doesn't play anything where you expect him to play.

(3) Howlin Wolf - What can you say about the Wolf. BIG tone without anything fancy. Love it.

Modern Players that helped me and taught me.

(1) Jon Gindick - He got me started making music. I owe it all to him.

(2) Dennis Gruenling - Taught me to tongue block and opened up a whole new world of sounds.

(3) Jason Ricci - Blew me away the first time I heard him play and showed me what could be done with a harmonica. He showed me a simple exercise in pentatonic scale patterns. It may seem like a little thing but it got me out of the rut of playing stock licks and got me thinking more creatively.



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Killa_Hertz
1699 posts
Aug 15, 2016
7:23 PM
McBride ... I can feel that. The clinging to SBW2 at the beginning and not really feelin LW on the same level. Dont get me wrong, when Im in the mood for Walter His stuff cuts to the Core. But I don't relate to it quite the same way because I can't actually see it being played. In my head that is. (If that makes sense.) But Im at the point now, especially after that Kim wilson thread, that is starting to break through.



Sundancer ... I didn't get turned onto blues by Rock. Looking back there are endless rock songs that had stolen lines and phrases from famous blues songs, but I never traced them forward myself.

However my insight into alot of Blues (especially harmonica blues) was a little more humorous. I had always listened to Wolf since I dug my moms LPs outta my basement. So Wolf, Sabbath, etc. all because of mom. Lol.

But The first time i heard JR Wells Hoodooman Blues was in the Movie theater. In 2006 I was in the movie Idiocracy. Lmao. The Head of that song plays in that movie. After hearing it just that one time, after the movie i went out and bought the Album. The rest is history.

I thought you might find that funny.
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Barley Nectar
1248 posts
Aug 15, 2016
7:30 PM
Magic Dick
Big band movies that Mom n Dad love to this day.
Scott White


My Brother Randal who handed me a Hohner C maj the day I left for basic training. He said "don't come back till you learn how to play it"
tf10music
275 posts
Aug 15, 2016
7:51 PM
1) R.L. Burnside
2) Robert Belfour
3) Howlin Wolf

This is in terms of songwriting/delivery/guitar in the first two cases. There's a whole different list for harmonica (probably Jason Ricci, Junior Wells and Little Walter, with Howard Levy and Brendan Power trailing closely behind)

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JustFuya
943 posts
Aug 15, 2016
11:25 PM
These were my wake up calls in the order received.

Taj Majal - "Natch'l Blues"
Jethro Tull - "This Was" & "Stand Up"
Johnny Almond - sax & flute on Mayall's "Turning Point"

There are too many to remember/name since that time but I'm particularly fond of the Sonnys II & Terry.
John M G
63 posts
Aug 16, 2016
7:19 AM
I was 11 when the Beatles released "Love Me Do" in 1963, that little bit of harp by John Lennon was the start of it!

I started playing in my early 20's.
Big Walter Horton; there was a double albums out "Blues Jam in Chicago" where he played along with Fleetwood Mac and then I bought more of his albums
I also bought the Album "Sonny Boy Williamson and the Yardbirds" and that switched me onto him.
As I bought more Big Walter LP's some of them were half and half Big Walter and Carey Bell. I really liked the both of them. They were my early major influences

I had several Charlie Musselwhite albums, loved his playing but I was never really a fan of his singing though. Never really got into Little Walter.

In maybe the early 90's I came across Norton Buffalo after one of his trips to the Australian "Blues over Byron" festival which was televised here and I really liked his playing with Roy Rogers. I like his chromatic stuff too.
I was really sad when he passed in 2009

In maybe the late 90's I started buying lot of John Popper music.

Then there's Jason who just blows me away.
Wish I had another couple of lifetimes to maybe get a 1/4 or 1/2 as good him.

Here's a clip from the 90's of Norton Buffalo and Roy Rogers Rogers playing live at the Byron Blues festival

bonedog569
1053 posts
Aug 16, 2016
11:28 AM
SB2
Butter
Taj Mahal (just to be different)
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The Iceman
2938 posts
Aug 16, 2016
1:55 PM
Siegel/Schwall Band
James Cotton's Rocket 88
Cream - Jack Bruce's Train Time
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Chris L
137 posts
Aug 16, 2016
11:29 PM
c1970-Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Allman Bros.
c2010- Willie Dixon, Sonny Boy WII, Paul Butterfield.
Funny how 20 year old music improves after an extra 40 or so years.....But I still love Clapton, Hendrix and the Allmans...
kudzurunner
6023 posts
Aug 17, 2016
4:23 AM
In the spirit of freely interpreting Goldbrick's good and provocative question, I'll frame it this way: Which blues players had the most powerful formative influence not just on my playing, but on my understanding of what the music is about: what sort of power it can manifest over people in live performance? Whose recordings and live performances did I spend the most deeply focused time immersed in, copying, imitating, trying to get the flavor of?

I don't think I can answer with just three names, but I can do it with six: three guitar players and three harp players:

Nat Riddles
Sterling Magee
Paul Butterfield
Eric Clapton
B. B. King
James Cotton


Plus two sax players:

Houston Person
Hank Crawford


If we're talking about the one original thing I've managed to do in the past decade, which is the blues/rock shredding that drives "Crossroads Blues" and "Sunshine of Your Love," then I need to add one more player, since I entered the woodshed trying to work out the implications of a specific handful of 1/16th note licks that he gave me back in 2000, and those songs are what resulted:

Jason Ricci

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wheel
474 posts
Aug 17, 2016
5:35 AM
My main harmonica influences and favourite harmonica players (I can't say that I play in their style but one trick from there one from here) are:
Little Walter
Big Walter
Charlie Musselwhite
Norton Buffalo
Paul Delay
Mark Ford
Gary Primich
Jason Ricci
PT Gazell
Dennis Gruenling
and the biggest influence is William Clarke

My main influences in other music are:
Willis Jackson
Jimmy Forrest
Grant Green
Gene Ammons
Bill Jennings
Jack McDuff
The Crusaders
Steely Dan

I'm sorry but I can't name only 3 :)
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snakes
727 posts
Aug 17, 2016
1:46 PM
I have to list two caveats. Personal influence on my playing and influence by my listening.

Playing:
Grant Dermody
Mark Riley
Adam Gussow

Listening:
Big Walter
Jason Ricci
William Clarke

There are many more, but tried to stick with a small number.
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ted burke
482 posts
Aug 17, 2016
4:30 PM
Guitar players are actually more of an influence on my playing than harp players,so here's a list of fret masters who've influenced the way the way I make sounds with my instrument.

BB King
Mike BLoomfield
Johnny Winter
Albert King
John McLaughlin
Larry Coryell
Allan Holdsworth
George Benson
Jeff Beck

some saxophone players:
Coltrane
Cannonball Adderly
Wayne Shorter
Michael Brecker

and trumpet, especially trumpet:
Freddie Hubbard
Woody Shaw
Miles Davis


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groyster1
2869 posts
Aug 19, 2016
10:59 AM
howlin wolf,little walter,peter green
Buzadero
1290 posts
Aug 19, 2016
1:56 PM
In the spirit of the the actual literality of the title of the thread, I'll say Big Paul DeLay, Big Howlin' Wolf, and the late and great Big Candye Kane.

Then there was that bouncer at the King King Club, back when it was on La Brea. He was more of a "biggest black and blue influence".

Actually, I'd have to say Bill Clarke, Provine Hatch, and my next door neighbor Bill Robinson way back when I was a dumb kid living on the West Bank of NOLA. Those would be three. Not THE top three, but definitely stand out in my head as influential on me.

I could just as easily swap one for Kashmar when he and the Pontiax were playing the regular weekly gig in Oak View, CA.

The simplest answer is the San Diego music scene in the 1970's, New Orleans and the Biloxi music scene in the early 1980's, and the Los Angeles scene in the mid-80's.

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wolfkristiansen
390 posts
Aug 20, 2016
12:45 AM
"Your 3 biggest blues influences"

This topic has nothing to do with harmonica, though a blues harmonica player could be in the list. Goldbrick showed us what he meant by the influences he named.

So... taking the implied question literally, for me it's these in this order:

1. Robert Johnson
2. Muddy Waters
3. Howling Wolf

Robert for his deep, aching, otherworldly blues, Muddy for his pure unadulterated blues, and Wolf for his ferocity.

All of these singers affected me deeply when I first heard them on record. Robert and Wolf made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

Cheers,

wolf kristiansen
nowmon
96 posts
Aug 20, 2016
5:12 AM
The three that got me going in 1968, Sony Terry,SBW2,Little Walter. And on guitar was Albert King,Jimi Hendrix and J.L.Hooker Looking at all this time though James Cotton has influenced the most...
pharpo
795 posts
Aug 20, 2016
8:27 AM
@snakes - Long time no hear !!!

My three would be...

John Mayall - Until I heard "Room To Move" I had never heard (or paid attention too) anyone play the harp like that.

Paul Butterfield Blues Band - My first blues album

James Cotton - My second blues album.
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GamblersHand
616 posts
Aug 20, 2016
9:12 AM
It's a while ago but I think I decided to play harmonica after hearing Sugar Blue play Another Man Done Gone on a Blues at Montreaux album.

My main influences, perhaps -
Taj Mahal
James Harman
Louis Jordan
snakes
729 posts
Aug 23, 2016
2:12 PM
Hey pharpo! Good to "see" ya!
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bluemoose
1142 posts
Aug 25, 2016
4:53 PM
Charlie Musselwhite
Jason Ricci
Paul deLay



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teahika
55 posts
Aug 25, 2016
5:07 PM
USA Blues - Jimi Hendrix - bought my first album at 12 years old
British blues - Early Fleetwood Mac
Kiwi[NZ] blues - All the live bands at the bars/clubs and jams.
Chaz
10 posts
Aug 25, 2016
7:08 PM
3 is rough. Real rough. Gotta break it up into pre and post harp. Been singing the blues for years but only blowing harp 2+ years:

pre harp: Muddy (without a keen awareness of the lineage of harp royalty that has played with him), Wolf, Junior Kimbrough

post harp: Butterfield, Junior Wells, James Cotton

And so many more in both categories... WAIT- new category...

ALIVE AND WELL: Kim Wilson, Jon Atkinson, Paul Oscher

And I'm aware Cotton is alive, I just group him with the old time guys.
Owen Evans
188 posts
Aug 27, 2016
5:37 PM
Roosevelt Sykes; Otis Spann; Big Joe Turner.

Of course everyone loves Muddy and Little Walter, including me.
Fishlips
55 posts
Aug 28, 2016
9:09 PM
Curtis Salgado

Grant Dermody

Westside Andy
Mojokane
863 posts
Aug 28, 2016
9:49 PM
for me,

Charlie Musselwhite
Paul Butterfield
William Clarke

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tbang
52 posts
Sep 06, 2016
7:40 AM
Blues:
Howlin Wolf
Clapton
Ray Charles (not blues...don't care)


For my harp playing, specifically.
Sonny Terry
Tom Ball
Louis Jordan

(I'm also late to the game...but have been pretty high on William Clarke this past year)
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