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groyster1
2824 posts
Nov 27, 2015
7:09 AM
it has been recommended to me that I add a delay to my pignose amp....don't know anything about delays......suggestions?
1847
2915 posts
Nov 27, 2015
7:28 AM
adam gussow uses a dd3 as did william clarke and rod piazza, among others.

i have a akai headrush and a bella ep
mostly i use the bella ep.sounds just like a echoplex.

the akai has 5 outputs, pretty amazing, only 60 dollars
rogonzab
846 posts
Nov 27, 2015
7:31 AM
Joyo analog delay.
Cheap, good tone, does not mess whit your own tone.
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jbone
2075 posts
Nov 27, 2015
9:48 AM
I used to have a dd3. Lost it along the Currently I'm very happy with Lone Wolf's harp delay pedal.

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Kingley
3970 posts
Nov 27, 2015
10:48 AM
I think the Joyo is a pretty good option too. Plus of course it's cheap, so if you find you don't like delay (not all players do) then you haven't laid out much.
Thievin' Heathen
631 posts
Nov 27, 2015
11:38 AM
I just bought a Zoom MS 70CDR. It's more fun than a barrel of monkeys. It's a pedal modeling pedal. Lots of chorus, delay & reverb (hence CDR) pedal models to string together (virtual) plus a few tremolos and equalizers. I bet you can find a delay among them to suit your taste. It seems to neither attenuate the mic signal or create any new feedback issues. I've tried it with a 57 w/impedance trans-X and an Akai DM13. About $120 from Sweetwater.

It was not my intention to start building a pedal board, but it did not take too long to notice the absence of compression and distortion, all the Lone Wolf trinkets and a Sonic Stomp. I will worry about that tomorrow.
KC69
483 posts
Nov 27, 2015
11:39 AM
I have a Lone Wolf V2 Delay setting around I would probably sell.
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SuperBee
2990 posts
Nov 27, 2015
7:15 PM
I've been happy enough with LW delay.
alaska129
5 posts
Nov 27, 2015
11:15 PM
mxr carbon copy still going strong
hvyj
2831 posts
Nov 28, 2015
9:06 AM
MXR Carbon Copy is a very nice delay. Very dark. Sometimes using delay will provoke feedback. In that regard TC Electronic Flashback Delay is very versatile and does not saturate the signal the way the CC and some other delays do, and is less likely to provoke feedback. Not that saturation is a bad thing. It's just that it may provoke feedback with some amps.

Last Edited by hvyj on Nov 28, 2015 11:04 AM
Popculture Chameleon
108 posts
Nov 29, 2015
4:49 PM
Thievin' Heathen
does the Zoom ms 70cdr have a delay that has a slap back effect. I am actually saving up to get one after you game me the advice on my own thread and saw a few videos of the pedal on you tube.
Thievin' Heathen
638 posts
Nov 30, 2015
1:28 PM
PC - It actually has a delay called "SLAPBACKD". It does not appear to be a clone of any particular pedal.
You can read about all the pedal model options here..,https://www.zoom.co.jp/sites/default/files/products/downloads/pdfs/MS-70CDR_FX-list_English.pdf.

An MXR Carbon Copy is 1 of the options. I really can't say about the accuracy of the cloning. I guess the only way you could really do that would be an A/B comparison of the 2. Perhaps someone here, more afflicted with G.A.S. than I, will weigh in with an opinion.

I will say (again) that it is very harp friendly. I have not yet found a combination of effects that will reproduce the fat tone of a crystal bullet mic , but there is no doubt the effects are affecting.
gmacleod15
258 posts
Dec 01, 2015
5:06 AM
I noticed that the Boss DD3 and MXR CC are both popular. I have had them both (bought the Boss because that is what Adam was using). However neither lasted more than about 2 years before they stopped working.

I use my pedals regularly but mostly for home use so I wouldn't consider this excessive wear and tear.

Any others have this experience?
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gmacleod15
259 posts
Dec 01, 2015
5:06 AM
I noticed that the Boss DD3 and MXR CC are both popular. I have had them both (bought the Boss because that is what Adam was using). However neither lasted more than about 2 years before they stopped working.

I use my pedals regularly but mostly for home use so I wouldn't consider this excessive wear and tear.

Any others have this experience?
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MBH member since 2009-03-24
MindTheGap
804 posts
Dec 01, 2015
5:20 AM
I have the joyo, which does a very good job of mimicking a tape delay. The downside is that you can't run it from a battery for more than a few minutes so you have to run it from a PSU. And the max delay is long - nice for playing comfortably numb on guitar but a less useful range for harmonica. It means all the useful, shorter delay range is squashed into a small sweep of the delay pot.

Since the OP says he knows nothing about delays, it's important to point out that some delays try to keep the echoes intact, and some intentionally degrade the signal to emulate what the old tape delays did. Roughly split into ones called 'digital' and 'analog' delays, but mostly they are all digital in terms of the actual electronics.

There's one I like the look of - Danelectro Fish n Chips is it? Looks like you can adjust the amount of signal degredation. A hi-cut filter I think. Oh no, it's a Dan Echo.

Or I would like a WEM Copycat, but I expect they are all 'vintage' now and so expensive.

Last Edited by MindTheGap on Dec 01, 2015 9:17 AM
timeistight
1906 posts
Dec 01, 2015
3:51 PM
"Roughly split into ones called 'digital' and 'analog' delays, but mostly they are all digital in terms of the actual electronics."

That isn't strictly true. There are a number of true analog delays currently available. One, the MXR Carbon Copy, has already been mentioned.
1847
2930 posts
Dec 01, 2015
4:11 PM
but all the cool kids use digital.
hvyj
2839 posts
Dec 01, 2015
4:27 PM
One of the reasons delay is so popular with harp players is that it evens out the difference in timbre between bent and unbent notes.

The Boss delay is not true bypass. MXR says the CC is, but I'm not so sure that's true. However, if you leave the delay on all the time it doesn't make any difference anyway. The TC Electronic Flashack Delay is definitely TB. The Wampler Faux Analog Echo is also TB. Nice unit, but kinda bright for harp and can provoke feedback with some amps, but it gets along very well with my Super Reverb Reissue and I use it with that amp.

Last Edited by hvyj on Dec 01, 2015 6:32 PM
Owen Evans
102 posts
Dec 05, 2015
6:24 PM
I really like my Memphis Mini Delay which is free with an MM amp or $89 if purchased alone: http://www.memphisbluesamps.com/delay
The sound fattens up and it's as if you are in a larger hall where echo slap can occur and give your sound a nice tone. Other far more expensive pedals sound like they're adding stuff to the sound. This pedal is polite and only thickens & enhances your tone.


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