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Diggsblues
1744 posts
Mar 28, 2015
7:36 AM
The title says its blues but is it?


Stevie changes the key.

Ah Toots


Now I play on what some would call the jazz side but the guitar is more in a traditional blues style.

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dougharps
892 posts
Mar 28, 2015
10:35 AM
IMHO

If you are a jazz player, it is blues. If you are a blues player it is jazz.

If you don't adhere to dualistic logic that excludes the middle, and you prefer scaling and multivalued logic, on a scale where 0 is not blues at all and 1.0 is totally blues, I would call it a .6. The issue for me is:

To what extent is the song blues?

I personally find that multivalued logic, so called "Fuzzy Logic", serves us better in discussing such definitions rather than Aristotelian either/or dualistic logic that creates a false dichotomy and makes us choose yes or no, true or false.
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Doug S.

Last Edited by dougharps on Mar 28, 2015 10:44 AM
SuperBee
2504 posts
Mar 28, 2015
4:01 PM
kind of....
timeistight
1742 posts
Mar 28, 2015
5:13 PM
I see what you did there, Superbee.
mastercaster
145 posts
Mar 29, 2015
3:28 AM
Because a title has the word 'Blues' in it .. does that make it so .. nope , 100% absolutely not ... imo

None of the songs above I would classify as blues ... the last (yours) does have blues guitar work in it .... stretching boundaries perhaps ? : )

Hey Diggs , I sort of get it , sometimes we have a perception , we want to make a point .... this thread, as the rest of the posts you've contributed recently themed the same ... all the same to me .. not blues music .. many flavors , many shapes ... but not blues ..

I'm not trying to be harsh , really I'm not , I ask your understanding , you put the question out here ..... and some of the music you've posted is Real Nice on the ears .. but not blues imo , fwiw

hmmm let me put it like this .. If I came to a city I didn't know the local clubs and performers .. and was told by locals cats .. go to "The Blues Cafe and Diner" to hear good blues .. and I heard the music posted .. (other than Stevie and Toot's of course , and neither of their tunes you posted is blues imo) and, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't play the Blues Cafe & Diner in this fictitious city !

I'd be disappointed , wouldn't stay long (hope there wasn't a cover charge!:) & wouldn't return ..

Actually sort of happened to me in Indianapolis apx. 7 years ago .. I was visiting a friend in the US, I live overseas , but, from the US.
I wanted to watch/listen to some live blues .. he took me to the Slippery Noodle .. there was a young guy with funny hair wearing a tank top .. playing Incredible harmonica .. the music was outside My boundaries, didn't really get off on it , it didn't touch my soul, .. however, i was completely mesmerized and entertained by his style and technique .. the show ended,
I asked if we could Now go listen to some live Blues ? It was Jason Ricci performing ...
Now , if I was visiting & I heard Jason was performing with his new band anywhere close enough on my travels .. I'd make an extra effort to watch the performance & I'm Sure I'd feel more than satisfied after his show ..
No doubt's , since we've been listening to some of Jason's recent tracks right here in this forum : )

Last Edited by mastercaster on Mar 29, 2015 4:27 AM
nowmon
22 posts
Mar 30, 2015
4:05 AM
The apple don`t fall far from the tree,If you start with chords and scales,your playing will shine from there.If you start from modal riffs with inflections of field hollers and gospel shouts,well it`s a different feast...
hvyj
2675 posts
Mar 30, 2015
9:56 PM
The melody is built off of the blues scale ( or perhaps the minor pentatonic since I don't think.the flat 5 is called into play).
Goldbrick
941 posts
Mar 31, 2015
5:48 PM
Just cause blue is in the title dont make it blues.
To quote Bob- "he who feels it knows it

Blue in the title but not blues- but blues sentiments



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