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Martin
678 posts
Sep 02, 2014
1:03 PM
Lately I´ve been playing a few coffee-shop gigs just using my Roland Micro Cube (5W). There´s no PA.
It works OK for such small rooms, a bit low perhaps -- but I´m slightly annoyed that I can´t add my RP 150 (with Richard H´s settings) to it in order to get a somewhat broader palette of sounds. (It´s feedback from the very start almost; couldn´t even reach convincing volume levels if the gigs were in my living room.)

Question: How strong an amplifier do I need to fill say, an 80 square meter room with, say 50 people in it? And I mean while also using the RP?
Impossible to answer precisely?
Yeah, I know -- but roughly: 15 W? 30 W? (I understand from Richard´s instructions that a keyboard amp can be a way to go, but how powerful?)

Cheers,
Martin
HawkeyeKane
2598 posts
Sep 02, 2014
1:09 PM
Hunter says on his site that he recommends a Peavey KB2 amp. Those have the advantage of 12W or 45W output, so it'd cover you on smaller rooms and larger rooms in terms of volume. If you think you'll wind up needing more power, then you can step up to the KB3.
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rogonzab
590 posts
Sep 02, 2014
2:16 PM
yes, a bass amp would be a good idea. Maybe 20w whit at least an 8"speaker will be louder.

Are you using the RP to get diferents sounds or just an overdirve sound? if so, buy a Harpbreak and you can use it on any guitar amp (I think)
Martin
679 posts
Sep 03, 2014
8:47 AM
Thanks guys.

@rogonzab: It´s mainly for the difference in sounds -- but also overdrive, of course.
Yes, the Harpbreak has its appeal, that´s something I´ve understood. The backside is that you can get caught up in a sort of destructive consumtion spiral: there´s always a new gadget you need, and I try to stay slim.
rogonzab
591 posts
Sep 03, 2014
8:57 AM
yes, you are right, the GAS never stop!

But, I think that you need to have at least 2 good things: a good mic and a good amp. Maybe a good delay.

Right now I have all that 3 stuff (pro junior, akai dem13, joyo analog delay) and is a great feeling!
Martin
680 posts
Sep 03, 2014
9:04 AM
@rogonzab: Of course, there´s no arguing with that (except that I´m a dirt poor SOB ...).
I´ve good a vintage Beyerdynamic, that´s about as good as it gets here ... (and even that one is a bit weak in the volume department).
rogonzab
592 posts
Sep 03, 2014
9:15 AM
You dont need a lot of money to get good gear, those akai mics are cheap, the joyo delay is cheap, and you can get an used champ clone also cheap. Is a lot of money if you buy it all at once, but if you take your time and save money, you can have all of that in a few months.
mr_so&so
859 posts
Sep 03, 2014
9:19 AM
Hi Martin, I have a similar small modelling amp (5W Vox DA5) which I like as-is, but I also have a Zoom G3 effects box that I sometimes use with it. It works great when plugged into the AUX in port. Maybe that is your problem with feedback? In that configuration your amp is just a powered speaker and all the effects are coming from the FX box.
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walterharp
1508 posts
Sep 03, 2014
9:50 AM
i tried gigging some with my RP, and agree it is prone to feedback.. much more so than a decent mic and a harp friendly amp. I think it is partially because many of the patches (the whole unit actually) is voiced higher and into areas prone to harp feedback, but maybe I did not use it in that context long enough to figure out all the tricks. The Hunter patches are a bit better than the standard guitar ones though. I am not sure that a powerful amp will help that much, as I was using mine through the PA, which is basically a high power clean amp. for less than full band applications, and as a recording interface I like the RP ok.


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