KentuckyBlues
1 post
Feb 26, 2014
3:42 PM
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I feel like im still missing something in my style...
any tips guys?
harp is a hammond in a, cross to E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGd6mr_qZ24
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rogonzab
479 posts
Feb 26, 2014
3:52 PM
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To many -4 for me, you need to go back to the basics: tone, vibrato, chords changes, bends.
You can do all of this, but you need to do it right.
TB would give you more options.
Good for a year playing!
Last Edited by rogonzab on Feb 26, 2014 3:53 PM
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KentuckyBlues
2 posts
Feb 26, 2014
4:02 PM
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hey thanks, i just started the basics...
I taught myself, but have realized i need more direction.
what does TB mean?
I think right now i wana learn a real vabrato the most..
start there..
like i said, self taught, playin to old blues (but not so much harp, for some reason.)
im over just foolin around, and ready to become a real player..
thanks for the input rogonzab
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KentuckyBlues
3 posts
Feb 26, 2014
4:08 PM
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Little background, I play blues bass as my main thing, been playing over 10years.
mostly blues. So the idea of it is there, like I said though, thanks for the input. I think I can really get it if I learn the basics, currently watching through Adams YouTube vids lol.
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didjcripey
714 posts
Feb 27, 2014
9:56 AM
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Not too bad at all for a year.
I think following the chord changes more would help, especially with providing variation.
Maybe try learning scales in 1st, 2nd and third position.
See if you can pick up a few different riffs.
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MindTheGap
303 posts
Feb 27, 2014
10:14 AM
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KentuckyBlues - thank you for sharing your playing. I like to hear what other learners are doing. You've certainly got that 4D wail thing going on there.
If you are looking for direction in Adam's vids then I think you will find a whole world of things to learn and work towards there! You'll be amazed, if you haven't been amazed already.
If you are looking for basics, then I would have thought that his paid-for tone clinic would be good - covers vibrato you mentioned.
http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/3116794-Documents-eBooks-Music-Tutorials
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Milsson
110 posts
Feb 27, 2014
10:37 AM
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The first thing that comes to mind is that you have a good sense for timing and certanly have a feeling for dynamics. There are people all over youtube that dont have that.
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Leatherlips
232 posts
Feb 27, 2014
11:02 AM
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Some might think TB is a disease, but it's short for tongue blocking i.e. the method used to either get single notes, split octaves etc. Not my style, except for octave, but some swear by it.
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Stevelegh
939 posts
Feb 27, 2014
11:32 AM
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I'm hearing a certain kitty in there on the 3 draw bends.
Nice job.
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KentuckyBlues
4 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:08 PM
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Thanks everyone.
posted another video on my page trying to get a Harlem style going.
glad to know I'm not awful, but also good to know what needs work.
tongue blocking is crazy hard!
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JInx
738 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:12 PM
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I'd have to agree with your "missing something" feeling.
It sounds fine, but it's just another overdone, hackneyed version that deep down soulful blues sound we've all heard bazillions of times. And at this point it carries little of the power it once had. dead horse.
I mean, it's not bad, but no one is gonna be on that train with you....we've all ready been there. If you want to catch us, you need lyrics-that's what's missing. You've got to set that cliche into something new.
Give a listen to some of Frank's vocal blues stuff...he brings you in and then harps you over the head with it.
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didjcripey
715 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:14 PM
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Anything is hard at first; tongue blocking feels totally natural to me now
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KentuckyBlues
5 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:23 PM
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@jinx.my singing is painful! Lol.
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JInx
739 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:23 PM
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lol that's what the blues is about PAIN! DO IT!!
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timeistight
1502 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:40 PM
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Jeez, Jinx, dial it back a little, okay?
I thought it was good for a year's playing. It's obvious you are a musician and you understand the form.
I think what you're lacking is solo development and variety. A little repetition can be a good thing but five and a half minutes without much changing is too much. Of course, an interesting slow-blues solo that long is a challenge for all but the best players.
Over all, I think you're off to a good start. Keep at it!
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KentuckyBlues
6 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:56 PM
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Thanks timeistight.
yeah played in band and have a bass, blues is my thing
I get the form, I just don't know how to emulate it on harp.
I'm off to squirrel away to a Paul Butterfield bluesband album
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MindTheGap
304 posts
Feb 27, 2014
1:17 PM
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KB - take heart, the standard here is high - that's what makes this forum so interesting - and the criticism should be taken in that light. For instance, Frank that Jlnx mentions has been playing for a long time.
It takes some bravery to post your work, so much credit to you for that. I thought it was very good for a year but the teachers here would have more insight on where you might expect to be.
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KentuckyBlues
7 posts
Feb 27, 2014
1:18 PM
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As far as playing Butterfield, I feel like if I did do vocals, it be more of a Fred Neil kinda thing.
thanks again guys
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DukeBerryman
191 posts
Feb 28, 2014
12:12 PM
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I envy you being a bass player. I just got a Vox Pathfinder Bass practice amp - but to use for harp. If I knew how to play bass, all I would do is play bass lines on my harp.
Vox Pathfinder 10 Bass amp
Last Edited by DukeBerryman on Feb 28, 2014 12:18 PM
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DukeBerryman
192 posts
Feb 28, 2014
12:31 PM
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Vox Pathfinder 10 Bass amp, Shaker Retro Rocket mic, Fulltone 15' cable
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kudzurunner
4569 posts
Feb 28, 2014
12:56 PM
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I think it's pretty good for a year. You underplay rather than overplay, and your bends are reasonably in tune. I think you need to work on three things:
1) changing textures, so that it doesn't feel as though you're simply repeating yourself from chorus to chorus but instead are moving, grooving, building....TB 36 blow would help; a 45 warble would help; movement into the upper octave would help; repeated on-the-beat 2 draw or 5 draw would help
2) long notes. Play a long 4 draw. Wail on it. Or 5 draw. Or 1 draw. Vibrato would help, but even without vibrato, THAT particular variation would help
3) projection. You need to know how to stomp down, step forward, open your hands, and make a big sound at some point. In this video, you're trending towards noodling.
Trending towards noodling. That's a good phrase.
But I like it. You've definitely got something to work with.
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KentuckyBlues
10 posts
Feb 28, 2014
3:08 PM
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Oh snap, Adam, thank you for the advice!
of all the harp players, your style is one that I really want to grab on to.
I'm actually gettn ready to get a lesson or two from here, and vibrato is what I want to start with.
I'm not sure what you mean by stomp down. Do you mean a more harsh attack on the notes, or in the entire sound in general?
thanks everyone
also super special thanks to kudzu!
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shadoe42
282 posts
Feb 28, 2014
11:21 PM
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GamblersHand
490 posts
Mar 01, 2014
4:12 AM
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Very good for one year I thought. Although some said too much draw 4 - which is a typical trait of beginners/advanced beginners, I thought there was perhaps too little! Great that you're working the expressive 3 draw tones and making those central to your blues playing.
Good timing and phrasing too - must help being a bass player - there was a nice triplet feel and syncopation against the beat.
The 4/5 draw trills sounded a little half-hearted, and as I say you avoid the usual money shots of big 4 draw (plus a little 5 draw for colour). This could give more dynamics to your playing - especially if you open your cup more . Blues soloing is about tension and release - maybe a bit too little of the latter?
As others have said, the next step is more variety - a repertoire of riffs, and add vibrato and tonal colours. Your stock phrase and execution is killer - something I'd expect from a much more experienced player.
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KentuckyBlues
16 posts
Mar 01, 2014
4:18 AM
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wow thanks gamblers!
Yeah, vibrato is my current project, that alone i feel will really help my sound.
yeah ive played bass for awhile, mostly blues stuff, but the harp... I enjoy it in a way i dont get with anything else. Glad im getting so much positive feedback, makes me wana practice even more.!!
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jbone
1512 posts
Mar 01, 2014
9:08 AM
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You are FAR AHEAD of where I was at at one year. I was not a good student. If you are a good student you will progress much faster.
My big counsel would be, get those deep draws going, and let them out! You will probably kill a few draw reeds as you go along- I still do even after 40+ years- but it's part of the process. You will develop an innate sense of how far you can draw a reed before it's done for. Meanwhile, I don't know who all you are inspired by, but Cotton has always been one of my heroes. There are others as well but for some reason I never tire of his chops.
Carry on Sir!
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shadoe42
283 posts
Mar 01, 2014
7:30 PM
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Where did my post go? haha... oy
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Rick Davis
3017 posts
Mar 01, 2014
9:35 PM
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Sounds good to me, KB.
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