RDavis
2 posts
Feb 07, 2014
12:47 PM
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Was wondering what the membership thought about these later model shure green bullet mics. i usally use ev re10,s and shure 533. but run across one and bought it. was wondering what everyone thinks about this later model shure green bullet from the 1970,s.
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HawkeyeKane
2323 posts
Feb 07, 2014
12:51 PM
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I think most on the forum would agree that a mic's heart and soul is its element. That being said, the old Mexican 520D was a pretty good bullet. Pretty sure they came with the dual-Z 99S556 CM. A good element in its own right. You made a good purchase.
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Barley Nectar
292 posts
Feb 07, 2014
4:39 PM
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A CM IS a dynamic element!
RDavis: Who cares what we think. What do YOU think?
Do YOU like the mic? If we said it sucks, would it then suck? Use YOUR ears and make a judgment...Jeez
Last Edited by Barley Nectar on Feb 08, 2014 12:29 AM
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didjcripey
697 posts
Feb 07, 2014
5:08 PM
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Yes that is true a CM is a type of dynamic.
For someone who is new to harp mics, a quick look at the label on a green bullet will identify it either as controlled magnetic (or reluctance) or in the case of the newer ones, dynamic. Although they are both technically dynamic elements, they are essentially different.
I can also understand how someone could benefit from others opinions; if they are chasing a particular sound, and unable to get it with their mic, knowing if it was a 'good' one or not, would help to identify whether the problem was in technique or gear.
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Rick Davis
2947 posts
Feb 07, 2014
5:25 PM
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I had a Shure 520D mic back in the 80s. I thought it sounded very good.
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Jehosaphat
682 posts
Feb 07, 2014
7:15 PM
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My first Harp mike was a 520D ,it was a great mike with lots of output.
Wish sometimes i had never sold it.
Just have to make sure that it is set up high impedance(mine wasn't) and if it has that resistor in it most people say to take it out.
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RDavis
4 posts
Feb 07, 2014
8:01 PM
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Well nectar just asking what everybody thinks I know what I think. Wow u don't have to be so rude about it. Well I see I made a mistake signing up to be in this room. Thought would just ask. Nectar u need to get your headgear on straight. Well with rudeness like that I won't be back to this anymore well for everyone that give sensible comments thank u very much.
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jbone
1489 posts
Feb 07, 2014
8:35 PM
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That ought to be a pretty hot mic for you man. A 520D was my first real harp mic and paired with the right tube amp you can howl. Lots of grit and breakup, lots of warm tone and low end response.
I have a brown bullet with a mid 70's cm in it that i like a lot.
Speaking of the dynamic thing, I got a deal a few years ago on an EV m43u nos military mic. Odd duck it was, funky input, low impedance dynamic element and all. Butt ugly army green too. I sent it ti Greg Heumann and he got down in the guts, brought the impedance way up, installed a volume pot in it and a screw on connector. It's every bit as hot at the bullet mics!
Enjoy that 520d, you can probably hammer nails with it between sets!
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Kingley
3448 posts
Feb 07, 2014
11:04 PM
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The Shure 520D is a good workhorse mic.
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NiteCrawler .
258 posts
Feb 08, 2014
4:23 AM
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@RDavis,Where I believe a certain response was a bit rude and abrupt don,t let that discourage you from remaining on this great site,turn the other cheek and move on Bro.Theres alot of good info on this forum to be had and troll if anything.As for the 520 D I,ve had one since 79 and aside from the original spring wire connector its a very worthy(my go to)mic.I sent mine out yrs back to D.Gruenling and had him put a screw on connector on it and aside from a short a yr back its a definite keeper.If you are familiar with the site Green Bullet Mics,Dave Kott talks about this mic in particular and it being made in Mexico.The element the 99S556 he says sounds just as good as any of the elements made in the US.Mine has its own voice as do alot of my other vintage mics,including my 49 cr.As said,if you plan on using it often, send it out to have a screw on connector added to save yourself the hassle of the springed wire coming out.Those springs were good back in the broadcast days when they just sat on a desk but when used in our situation they just fail after time.Enjoy the mic and "Keep On Harpin".
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HarveyHarp
571 posts
Feb 08, 2014
5:57 AM
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@ Barley. There really is no need to be rude. You should probably appologize. In my mind, there is no such thing as a stupid question here.
@ RDavis. The 520D element originally was made in the US, and then in Mexico. I have a US made model, which plays fine, and I have played a mexican model, which, to my ear sounds the same. Personally, I have small hands and I think that it is too big, and heavy, but not as heavy as the newer 520 Dx, which to me are obnoxiously heavy.
I also have an RE10, and it is a great mic. If I am playing straight into a PA system, it is my go to mike. I use a Huemann xlr volume control, and I just plug it in, and go. It cups nicely, and is light, though with a volume control it is pretty long
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Greg Heumann
2595 posts
Feb 08, 2014
9:11 AM
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Chronologically, it went like this, from mid-forties to today:
Late 40's------->Early 50's-------> Late 50's------------->Early 70's----------->Mid 80's
Black label CR --> White label CR --> Single impedance CM -->Dual Impedance CM -->Dynamic
The Single impedance CM was in the original Model 520 Green Bullet. The dual impedance one was in the 520D, and the dynamic one was in the current 520DX model. With each successive generation, the elements got a little cleaner, gained a little more high frequency response, and a little more headroom (ability to withstand high sound pressure levels without distortion.) Of course since what we crave is the "right" kind of distortion, we often prefer the older elements.
The 99S556 (what you have) is a good element, but it is harsher/brighter than any of its predecessors. There are LOTS of them around so they can be had fairly cheaply, so they're a good value - and definitely better than anything in current production in a bullet-sized element.
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Thievin' Heathen
289 posts
Feb 09, 2014
11:30 AM
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This thread makes me want to re-visit my 520D. Somewhere along the way I detoured to an Sm-58(this goes back to my form my own opinion days), then SM-57, then one of Greg's 57's. I never did care for the 520D. I don't recall it imparting any tone or tone character at all. Perhaps a cupping technique issue.
Greg, it may be coming your way for a tune-up. If I know it is set up optimally....,
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