Rick Davis
2543 posts
Oct 13, 2013
11:22 AM
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A cool video for your Sunday morning browsing.
Last night at Ziggies:
Two years ago Nic walked into Guitar Center and bought this amp, a bone stock 60-watt Fender Deville 410. Nothing has been changed, not even a tube. No pedals or effects of any kind.
Getting good tone out if a stock Deville with zero pedals or mods is very hard. The amp is not mic'ed up. Nic is an amazing talent.
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Last Edited by Rick Davis on Oct 13, 2013 11:25 AM
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Rick Davis
2544 posts
Oct 13, 2013
11:37 AM
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Sitting in
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Last Edited by Rick Davis on Oct 14, 2013 9:17 AM
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Kingley
3200 posts
Oct 13, 2013
11:58 AM
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"Sitting in" But surely Rick you're standing up?? :)
Seriously though, Nic is getting some good tone out of that amp and proving once again that it's always the Indian and never the bow.
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Rick Davis
2545 posts
Oct 13, 2013
12:35 PM
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Kingley, I agree with you about the amp and the true source of tone, but I need to add that I've heard Nic play many different amps and he sounds better on a good harp amp than he does on this Deville.
To my ear the Deville in this video gives a kind of narrow "ooooh" sound while I prefer a wider "aaaah" sound. The breakup is a little stiff. Not sure you can hear all that in the video but I could in the room last night. It is surely a testament to Nic's immense skill that it sounds this good.
Uh, when I played the amp (see photo above) it sounded different. Not sure why...
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Joe_L
2352 posts
Oct 13, 2013
1:14 PM
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I like those amps. If a player has good sound and technique, they sound really good. If not, they sound really bright, brittle and thin.
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Frank
2993 posts
Oct 13, 2013
2:36 PM
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tmf714
2093 posts
Oct 13, 2013
2:44 PM
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Kim with a deuce-
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Rick Davis
2547 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:07 PM
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Kim puts a couple pedals and a preamp in front of the Devilles. But you knew that, Tom.
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The Blues Harp Amps Blog
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tmf714
2097 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:08 PM
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And he changes some tubes as well-working with a deuce is a little bit different-
Last Edited by tmf714 on Oct 13, 2013 3:09 PM
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Rick Davis
2548 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:10 PM
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Here is a cool Harley that was out in front of Ziggies last night:
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The Blues Harp Amps Blog
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SuperBee
1478 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:33 PM
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I was inspired by Aki Kumar's video about his modified DeVille. I think it served as the house harp amp at his Grand Dell Saloon jam.
They are a lot more common and cheaper in Aus than RI Bassman. Aki's amp wasn't altered very much: 4 resistors and 2 tubes.
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tmf714
2098 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:36 PM
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That's why Kim uses the DeVilles-they are plentiful,sound good,and require few mods to be good harp amps.
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Frank
2994 posts
Oct 13, 2013
3:41 PM
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I was at a concert seems like 10 years ago and we were walking from the parking lot to the stage...it was a far walk- suddenly I started hearing harmonica blastin through air- it took us 20 min to get to the stage and Kim was still playing when we finally arrived - The Tbirds were opening for someone that night - I bet - he gets a hell of a natural high by those prolonged harp solos and the band gets to relieve themselves on the side of the stage :)
Last Edited by Frank on Oct 13, 2013 3:44 PM
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Rick Davis
2549 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:02 PM
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When Kim Wilson played a festival here a couple years ago he had the two Deville amps, with an ART preamp and a couple of Kinder pedals. The sound was awesome, and really loud.
I was curious if the amps were customized so I contacted the festival promoter who put me in touch with the sound company that provided the Devilles at Kim's request. The owner of the sound company told me the amps were completely stock and were returned unmolested.
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Last Edited by Rick Davis on Oct 13, 2013 4:03 PM
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tmf714
2099 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:15 PM
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"The owner of the sound company told me the amps were completely stock and were returned unmolested."
You spoke to the wrong people-Kim would never request that the supplier perform tube swaps etc-that is handled Steve,Kims roadie. They would have no idea that Steve had swapped the tubes,and then swapped them back.
I am telling you this because I witnessed it first hand,and spoke to Steve about it.
Last Edited by tmf714 on Oct 13, 2013 4:16 PM
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Rick Davis
2550 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:26 PM
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What tube changes does he make?
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SuperBee
1479 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:42 PM
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I guess you mean Kim, but fwiw Aki had an AU in v1 and an AT in the PI.
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Rick Davis
2551 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:47 PM
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A 12AU7 in V1? Wow, that would really change the nature of the amp.
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tmf714
2100 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:52 PM
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I believe Steve swapped the preamp 12AX7 in V1 with a 12AT7-
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Barley Nectar
132 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:54 PM
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I have played several DeVilles. I like um, stick w/ the clean chnl. They will get big and phat. They need room to breath or they're too touchy. Good amp...Cheep, but most need some work on the boards. I still like um...BN
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tmf714
2101 posts
Oct 13, 2013
4:59 PM
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Kims rig-
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SuperBee
1480 posts
Oct 13, 2013
7:56 PM
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Val King said he changed resistor (R3 ) "on the input to the grid" from 1meg to 4.7meg in Aki's amp.
Also changed the 2 (1/2watt) plate resistors (R4 and R11) on the 1st preamp stage from 100k to 120k.
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blueswannabe
302 posts
Oct 13, 2013
8:12 PM
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Without reading the posts and just listening to the video, my first reaction was that I wasn't crazy about the sound of that amp.
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blueswannabe
303 posts
Oct 13, 2013
8:29 PM
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Without reading the posts and just listening to the nic clark video, my first reaction was that I wasn't crazy about the sound of that amp. Nic is fantastic and has incredible tone. But the amp sounded a little dull and lacked the richness and overtones of the modded bandmaster he usually plays.
Last Edited by blueswannabe on Oct 14, 2013 9:17 AM
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